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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
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- REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING
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- December 7th, 1992
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- Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
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- This material is based on work supported by the National Science
- Foundation under Grant No.NCR 8820945.
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- For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
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- ATTENDEES
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- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Borman, David / Cray Research
- Crocker, Dave / TBO
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
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- Regrets
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
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- AGENDA
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- 1) Administrivia
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- o Approval of the Minutes
- November 9th,
- November 10th,
- November 20th,
- November 30th,
- December 2nd
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- 2) Protocol Actions
- o Token Ring MIB
- o Identity Protocol/ Ident MIB
- o FTP/FTAM Gateway
- o MTU Discovery
- o DS1 MIB /DS3 MIB
- o IP Addressing Guidelines
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- 3) Technical Management
- o Approval of IESG Re-Organization
- o IESG review of ROAD proposals
- o SUN NFS/RPC
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- MINUTES
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- 1) Administrivia
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- o Approval of the Minutes
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- The minutes of the teleconferences on November 9th, November 10th,
- November 30th and December 2nd as well as the minutes of the meeting
- of November 20th held during the IETF plenary session in Washington
- D.C. were approved.
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- 2) Protocol Actions
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- In email prior to this meeting, the IESG agreed that balloting will
- be used in conjunction with the regular IESG meetings to approve
- protocol actions. Presence at an IESG meeting without raising an
- objection is considered a "yes" vote.
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- o Token Ring MIB
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- The Token Ring MIB waiting for the completion of a survey of current
- implementations before being moved to Draft Standard.
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- o Identity Protocol and Ident MIB
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- The IESG approved the elevation of the Identity Protocol and the
- Ident MIB to Proposed Standard. The IESG had previously asked for a
- revision to the protocol to reflect the current understanding of
- character handling and this change was made and approved by the
- Working Group.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a protocol action notice to the RFC Editor
- and the IETF elevating the Identity protocol and the Ident MIB to
- Proposed Standard.
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- o FTP/FTAM Gateway Specification
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- The IESG has issued a last call for the FTP/FTAM gateway
- specification and received initial comments on the suitability of
- this specification for standardization. The comments primarily
- addressed the small constituency for the protocol and the need for
- change control and evolution. The IESG noted that there are three
- implementations, one of them of an earlier version and that although
- small, the need for the gateways will cause them to be implemented.
- The specification did not originate from a Working Group but was
- reviewed by the OSI General Working Group when it existed and was
- reviewed again at the Washington DC plenary meeting in a BOF. The
- IESG agreed to continue with the last call for Proposed Standard.
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- ACTION: Hobby -- Research and prepare a technical summary of the
- FTP/FTAM Gateway protocol and a report on the constituency of the
- protocol.
-
- o MTU Discovery
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- RFC 1191, Path MTU Discovery has expired its two years in grade as a
- Proposed Standard. The protocol is widely implemented but its
- operational usage is limited by the existence of routers that
- suppress ICMP messages. (to work around an old 4.2 BSD bug) The
- IESG discussed whether this was such a significant problem that the
- protocol should be abandoned and agreed that it was not. The 4.2
- BSD behavior in the face of unrecognized ICMP messages is
- non-conforming and should not be an obstacle to further evolution of
- the Internet. (Implemented by Sun, Cray, and FTP Software among
- others)
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With text from Stev Knowles outlining the current
- operational experience, send a last call for the elevation of MTU
- Discovery to Draft Standard.
-
- o DS1 MIB/ DS3 MIB
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- A bug is the DS1 and DS3 MIB specifications has been found which
- will be corrected in the next version of the MIBs. To send a clear
- signal that these should not be implemented, the Working Group has
- requested that these documents be moved to historic.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call to the IETF requesting comments
- on the movement of DS1 and DS3 MIBS to historic.
-
- o IP Addressing
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- The IP Addressing paper submitted to the IESG for Proposed Standard
- has been split into two documents. A section by Elise Gerich has
- been published as RFC 1366, "Guidelines for Management of IP Address
- Space" and the remainder has been reposted as an Internet Draft.
- The Authors have asked that the documents progressed. The IESG
- discussed the document and agreed that the Internet Draft
- "Guidelines for IP Address Allocation" should be published as an
- Informational RFC.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After getting comments from Yackov, send a
- document action to the RFC Editor and IETF for the IP Addressing
- Guidelines to Informational mentioning the original submission for
- Proposed Standard.
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- Technical Management Issues
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- o Approval of IESG Re-Organization
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- The IESG discussed and approved the two-phase re-alignment of IESG
- Areas discussed at the December 2nd special teleconference.
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- ACTION: Gross -- Announce the IESG re-organization to the IETF mailing
- list.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Update the secretariat records to reflect the new
- IESG structure.
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- o IP Version 7 Protocol Review
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- The IESG recognizes that a comprehensive review of the ROAD
- protocols is not likely to be completed by December 15th as hoped
- for in the IETF Plenary. To discuss the course of action a single
- topic teleconference was planned. The date is to be announced.
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- ACTION: Coya -- Set up a IESG Teleconference to discuss the ROAD
- Proposals and planning.
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- o Sun NFS and RPC
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- Sun has expressed an interest to the IESG to move NFS and RPC into
- the IETF standards process. They recognize that this will entail
- giving change control to the IETF. The IESG discussed (briefly)
- this proposal and agreed to it enthusiastically. The
- standardization of NFS and RPC has been an goal for several
- years.
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- ACTION: Hobby -- Explore with SUN the details of giving change control
- to the IETF for standardizing NFS and RPC.
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- Appendix - Summary of Action Items
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a protocol action notice to the RFC Editor
- and the IETF elevating the Identity protocol and the Ident MIB to
- Proposed Standard.
-
- ACTION: Hobby -- Research and prepare a technical summary of the
- FTP/FTAM gateway protocol and a report on the constituency of the
- protocol.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With text from Stev Knowles outlining the current
- operational experience, send a last call for the elevation of MTU
- Discovery to Draft Standard.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call to the IETF requesting comments
- on the movement of DS1 and DS3 MIBS to historic.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a document action to the RFC Editor and IETF
- for the IP Addressing Guidelines to Informational. Make mention of the
- original submission for Proposed Standard and send the document to
- Yackov for comments before sending.
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- ACTION: Gross -- Announce the IESG re-organization to the IETF mailing
- list.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Update the secretariat records to reflect the new
- IESG structure.
-
- ACTION: Coya -- Set up a IESG Teleconference to discuss the ROAD
- Proposals and planning.
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- ACTION: Hobby -- Explore with SUN the details of giving change control
- to the IETF for standardizing NFS and RPC.
-